Dance Real Podcast
Welcome to Dance Real;
a podcast that pulls back the curtain on the dance industry to explore what really goes on behind the scenes. I’m your host, Kate Histon, former dancer, teacher and studio owner to now mindset and leadership coach as well as international adjudicator. I am someone who’s lived through the pressure, perfectionism, and unspoken harm that too often defines the dance world. This podcast is for dancers, teachers, and parents who are ready to hear honest conversations about everything from artistry to crossed boundaries, competition, community, intuition to industry norms and start reimagining a healthier, more progressive approach to dance education and employment. We’re here to talk about what’s real. Because only when we tell the truth can we change the story.
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Episodes

Feb 25, 2025
Feb 25, 2025
39 min
Ep: 04 "Don't Try to be Perfect"
In this conversation, Katherina Makowskaja, a former principal ballerina, shares her journey from childhood in a dance family to becoming a renowned dancer and now a teacher. She discusses her early training in Ukraine, the challenges of competition, and the pressures of performing in a ballet company. Katherina reflects on her transition from dancing to teaching, emphasizing the importance of self-reflection and understanding in education. She offers valuable insights for aspiring dancers, highlighting the significance of passion over perfection in their careers.
Find Katherina on instagram @katherinamakowskaja
Disclaimer:
The Dance Real Podcast is a space for open, honest conversations rooted in real-life experiences within the dance world. What I share—and what my guests share—is based on personal perspective, not professional advice. If you’re seeking support for your mental health, legal matters, or business decisions, I encourage you to speak with a qualified professional.
The views expressed by guests are their own and don’t always reflect mine. Any references to people, places, or situations are shared with respect and the intent to spark reflection, learning, and conversation—not to harm or misrepresent.
By engaging with this content, you acknowledge and agree that the host, guests, and Dance Real Podcast are not liable for any decisions made based on the information provided.

Feb 19, 2025
Feb 19, 2025
43 min
Ep: 03 "Unstoppable"
In this episode Janelle McPherson shares her inspiring journey from being an ex-professional dancer at the Moulin Rouge and across Europe including the “It Girls” to navigating life after dance. She discusses her early dance experiences, the rigorous training and performances at the Moulin Rouge, and the emotional challenges of transitioning to a new career. Janelle emphasizes the importance of self-discovery, resilience, and the skills learned through dance that have helped her in her new ventures, including running a coffee roastery in Byron Bay. This episode is both entertaining and educational. An episode not to be missed! You can find Janelle on instagram @Janelle_Louise_M or @Busy_Bird_Coffee
Disclaimer:
The Dance Real Podcast is a space for open, honest conversations rooted in real-life experiences within the dance world. What I share—and what my guests share—is based on personal perspective, not professional advice. If you’re seeking support for your mental health, legal matters, or business decisions, I encourage you to speak with a qualified professional.
The views expressed by guests are their own and don’t always reflect mine. Any references to people, places, or situations are shared with respect and the intent to spark reflection, learning, and conversation—not to harm or misrepresent.
By engaging with this content, you acknowledge and agree that the host, guests, and Dance Real Podcast are not liable for any decisions made based on the information provided.

Feb 12, 2025
Feb 12, 2025
46 min
Ep: 02 - "You Can't Judge talent"
Ever want to know how a Dance Judge adjudicates a competition? In this conversation, Rachel Jackson (International Dance Judge & Examiner) shares how! As well as her extensive experience in the dance world, discussing her journey from dancer to teacher and examiner. She emphasizes the importance of self-care for educators, the challenges faced in dance education, and the evolving landscape of dance training. Rachel also delves into the role of competitions, the intricacies of judging, and the significance of assessment criteria in dance exams. Throughout the discussion, she highlights the need for a balanced approach to teaching that prioritizes the well-being of students and fosters a positive learning environment.
Disclaimer:
The Dance Real Podcast is a space for open, honest conversations rooted in real-life experiences within the dance world. What I share—and what my guests share—is based on personal perspective, not professional advice. If you’re seeking support for your mental health, legal matters, or business decisions, I encourage you to speak with a qualified professional.
The views expressed by guests are their own and don’t always reflect mine. Any references to people, places, or situations are shared with respect and the intent to spark reflection, learning, and conversation—not to harm or misrepresent.
By engaging with this content, you acknowledge and agree that the host, guests, and Dance Real Podcast are not liable for any decisions made based on the information provided.

Feb 5, 2025
Feb 5, 2025
44 min
Ep: 1 - We Need to Have difficult Conversations :
In this engaging episode host Kate with former professional ballet dancers and founders of Lunar The Brand, Daniel Gaudiello and Gabriel Rogers discuss the intricate relationship between mental health and the world of dance. Daniel and Gabriel explore their personal journeys into dance, the challenges faced by male dancers, and the importance of fostering a supportive environment for young dancers. The conversation delves into the evolving dynamics of dance education, the impact of external validation, and the necessity of body positivity. They emphasize the role of teachers in nurturing self-confidence and the importance of open communication between students and educators. Daniel Gaudiello and Gabriel Rogers are both ex professional ballet dancers and the founders of "Lunar the brand" and "Gents" www.lunarthebrand.com @lunar.thebrand Follow them on Instagram to watch their journey and how they are supporting dancers on their journey.
Disclaimer:
The Dance Real Podcast is a space for open, honest conversations rooted in real-life experiences within the dance world. What I share—and what my guests share—is based on personal perspective, not professional advice. If you’re seeking support for your mental health, legal matters, or business decisions, I encourage you to speak with a qualified professional.
The views expressed by guests are their own and don’t always reflect mine. Any references to people, places, or situations are shared with respect and the intent to spark reflection, learning, and conversation—not to harm or misrepresent.
By engaging with this content, you acknowledge and agree that the host, guests, and Dance Real Podcast are not liable for any decisions made based on the information provided.

Jan 16, 2025
Jan 16, 2025
29 sec
Welcome to the Dance Real Podcast
I’m Kate Histon-Behrend.
Join in on real conversations, tips and tricks for aspiring dancers, dance parents, teachers and studio owners with stories of resilience, triumph and growth.
This podcast sheds light on the full spectrum of the dance world, both on and off the stage sharing wisdom, insights and practical guidance





